Obama draws 28,000 to Asheville, NC - My Experience

I attended Sen. Obama's campaign rally today in Asheville, NC, and it was amazing. Asheville is located in the mountains of Western North Carolina, a very red area. Asheville itself, however, is a fairly liberal oasis surrounded by a sea of deep red. Police estimates indicate that Obama drew 28,000 people to the Asheville High Stadium, an unbelievable feat considering this state has not seen a major presidential candidate in many decades!

Let's put this number in perspective. In 2004, John Kerry got 51,868 votes in Buncombe County (Asheville is the county seat) and Bush got 52,391 votes. Yet Obama was able to draw MORE THAN HALF of either Bush's or Kerry's vote total for a rally. Simply Amazing! However, some of the people were from South Carolina or Tennessee, but the vast majority were from these parts.

http://www.app.sboe.state.nc.us/NCSBE/El ec/Results/resultsby_county_single.asp?E C=11xx02xx2004GENERAL2004ABUNCOMBE&c ontest_name=PRESIDENT

The gates opened at noon, but my wife and friends got there at 9:30, getting in line behind about 3,000 people, some of which camped out over night. The mood was festive, with lots of campaign volunteers registering voters and making sure people knew where to vote early - North Carolina has "One-Stop Voting" and Buncombe County has 15 sites where you can do that. There were also lots of people selling buttons, t-shirts, drinks, towels, and other items - we couldn't tell if it was for the campaign of not, but probably. Around 11:45 am they started letting us into the stadium, and what a beautiful site. The beautiful Asheville High School provided a majestic backdrop as we entered the football stadium. We had to pass through an impressive array of metal detectors - the first time I had seen portable walk-through metal detectors. The dude frisked me pretty good - I actually felt violated, but I digress. Slowly but surely, the whole freakin' stadium filled up. We were 50 feet away from Obama when he spoke, but we couldn't see his face most of the time because from our vantage point the teleprompter was covering his face. However, we did get to see his face when he delivered the applause lines and leaned back on the podium. We also saw him up close when he entered and left the stage. I felt like I was a part of history, and I've still got goose bumps.

Much of the speech was on health care. No one could argue Obama didn't provide specifics. I think it is really hard to explain why McCain's $5,000 tax credit is a bad idea, in large part because the inner workings of health care and insurance are so vexing for the vast majority of Americans. But Obama took his time, explained his universal health care plan, and belabored the point of how bad McCain's fake plan would be. The best moment came toward the end when Obama told the personal story of a Mom in Florida whose son was denied care after being diagnosed with a rare form of cancer. Essentially, the poor kid was not treated properly because it would cost the family tens of thousands they don't have, and the kid has been forced to abstain from all the physical activities that he enjoyed, including basketball. Obama implored us all to think about this kid when we played basketball and engaged in other physical activities, and the crowd was touched. It was magic.

Although Asheville autumns are very pleasant, we were surprised to find highs in the upper 70s and not a cloud to be seen. Normally, that would be OK, but when you're packed like sardines and the sun is in your face for hours, it takes a toll. Many people had to leave my area during Obama's speech due to overheating. Many of us were either in line or waiting for Obama to speak inside the stadium for over 5 hours, and it took its toll on some.

Before getting to the rally, my friends and I were guessing what the demographics of the crowd would look like. I was thinking that blacks would make up about 25% of the crowd, and young people about 15%. This seemed reasonable for the original estimates of 10,000 people, but way off for 28,000! Boy was I wrong! The vast majority of the people in attendance were Anglo-Saxon. Like 90-95%. And young people, say 30 and under, made up a huge percentage of the crowd, maybe 35-40%. It was a great surprise. A refreshing surprise.

All in all, it was a wonderful day. You have to remember that no one in their right mind thought North Carolina would be in play, much less a month out from the election. For crying out loud, a black man having a chance in North Carolina, in 2008? Further, many strategists have argued that it would be better for Obama to run up the margins in the big cities (Charlotte, Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill) than to waste time in Asheville. Today, we gave Obama 28,000 big reasons why he made the right decision.



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If Obama wins NC (none / 0)

That's still too much to hope for, I can't go there in my mind.

But, if he does, it's what Bush said he had but clearly didn't

If Obama can win VA and NC by some wild stretch, it's clearly going to go along with him cleaning up in the midwest and probably the SW.

It's the mandate.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 07:50:24 PM EST

Re: If Obama wins NC (none / 0)

I think you're probably right, but my worst fear is Obama wins the Kerry/Gore states by 6+ points, but McCain wins all the battlegrounds by 0-2 points. In this scenario, a surprise result in NC, as close as it is, could make the difference. Don't forget, had Gore won Tennessee, he'd have won. Who saw that coming?


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 09:10:49 PM EST
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Re: If Obama wins NC (none / 0)

I think Obama does better in the battleground states then Kerry did.....

Hard to think this comes down to Ohio again...


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:27:02 PM EST
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Re: If Obama wins NC (none / 0)

Yeah, it's really likely he will do better, but there's that small chance that keeps me up at night. I'm a federal employee, and the though of seeing the pictures of McCain and Palin at my job really sends chills down my spine.

I personally think Obama will get 300+ EV's.


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:34:19 PM EST
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Re: If Obama wins NC (2.00 / 1)

We got beat by turnout.

Rove got more people from his side out then we did ours.

Axelrod has always said, this is about turning out our folks.

GOTV, Registration, and lots of boots on the ground.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:59:58 PM EST
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Re: If Obama wins NC (none / 0)

He better, I've promised to eat a picture of McCain if Obama gets less than 300...

It would be a small one, but I still don't want to taste the toner.


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 01:01:52 AM EST
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Re: If Obama wins NC (none / 0)

Make it the one where he is hugging Bush..

That would make it extra tasty (BLEECH!)


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 01:14:16 PM EST
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Great diary! (none / 0)

I love to read first hand experiences.  I hope Obama does win NC but even if he loses, at least he went there to meet with Democrats.  If not this election, then next election.  


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 08:36:21 PM EST

Re: Great diary! (2.00 / 1)

Absolutely. I moved to North Carolina in 2005. I never expected that skinny kid with the funny name I saw give a speech at the 2004 Dem convention would be the nominee in 2008. Even less likely, we'd have a shot in North Carolina? Even with John Edwards on the ballot, we didn't even come close in 2004. Obama could really help out Kay Hagan and Bev Perdue win the Senate and Governor races, respectively.


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 09:13:47 PM EST
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28,000 attendance estimate (none / 0)

Sorry, I forgot to cite the attendance estimate. For those that don't know, the only major newspaper in Western North Carolina is the Asheville Citizen Times. Check out (one of) their story on Obama's visit:

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=200881004044


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 09:16:50 PM EST

Re: 28,000 attendance estimate (none / 0)

Did he meet with local media?

I would like to see more of that from Obama.  Its probally the cheapest type of PR a campaign can buy.


by gil44 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:44:24 PM EST
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Great, great diary. (none / 0)

The first-hand stories really are the best, this is stuff we can't get from the MSM.

Did you happen to get any pics or video clips?


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by chrisblask on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 09:45:07 PM EST

28,000 in Asheville, NC - my photo (none / 0)

We were there nearly all day, but it was so worth it to share the day with thousands upon thousands of wonderful, progressive Americans!

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by Spiffarino on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 09:59:29 PM EST

Re: 28,000 in Asheville, NC - my photo (none / 0)

Yeah, same here. I also got the sense some of the people weren't all that progressive, but just looking for a change!


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:40:35 PM EST
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Re: 28,000 in Asheville, NC - my photo (none / 0)

Well, you know how that "hope" thing works sometimes. I figured most of them were progressives, although there were obviously a few who were simply curious.

I was blown away by how he took charge of the health care issues, especially when he began to go through North Carolina insurance coverage requirements that would be sidestepped by McSame's horrible health plan. Barack took it apart and exposed it for the failure it would prove to be.

In all, he hit the right notes and it was worth the five-hour wait to hear his twenty-minute speech for the chance to get to know so many terrific people.


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by Spiffarino on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:49:37 PM EST
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Re: 28,000 in Asheville, NC - my photo (none / 0)

You're right on the money about his details of NC insurance requirements. That was really informative. Barack basically said you guys have it better than most here in NC, but McCain wants to undo that.


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:01:28 PM EST
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I've been to Asheville (none / 0)

I saw Einsturzende Neubauten play there a few years back.

Lotsa hippies.  Lots and lots of hippies.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:22:18 PM EST

Re: I've been to Asheville (none / 0)

Yes, it is a mecca for hippies. I don't hang out in their circles, but I have noticed. Mostly, I've heard people complain about it, but I don't pay those idiots any mind. The hippies seem pretty damn cool to me. Also, there's a lot of alternative medicine and healing in Asheville, something I never saw in Florida. Also a fair share of radical religious freaks and the conservative Southerners that are present throughout the South. Billy Graham is from these parts. He's got a huge presence just east of Asheville. It's really an interesting place to live, culturally and geographically. I never thought I would ever live in the mountains, having lived all my life in Florida before moving here, but I love 'em. I think a lot of the people that have stayed in Asheville lament the changing culture, and in fact, many have moved away. Just an hour south (down the mountain), you have the right-wing bastion of Greenville-Spartanburg in the extreme Northwest part of South Carolina, which has about a million people compared to about one-quarter million in Greater Asheville. Some interesting people live there, too. It's truly amazing how these two regions can be so different yet be so close to each other, and the "backwards" one is the more metropolitan area!


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:39:17 PM EST
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Re: I've been to Asheville (none / 0)

To me the hippies make downtown what it is. The Friday night drum circle at Pritchard Park is a huge hippie hangout and they are some of the coolest people you'll meet.


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by Spiffarino on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:52:25 PM EST
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Re: I've been to Asheville (none / 0)

Yeah, I've been there a couple times when I first moved here. I normally avoid downtown because I have this thing with inadequate parking, but I can't think of a time when downtown Asheville let me down. The folks are Pritchard Park really get into it. It's really cool to see them. I've never seen anything like that.


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:04:55 PM EST
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Re: Obama draws 28,000 to Asheville, NC - My Exper (2.00 / 1)

Thanks for the post.  Sounds a lot like the rally here in Greensboro.  You know, a lot of people I know (many of them independents and even some Republicans) thought, as I did, that Obama had a chance here ever since the primary.  That election really opened up a lot of eyes.

The thing is, I bet Obama sees a lot of parallels between NC and IL.  When he first moved to IL, by every right it should have been a blue state, but had actually gone to the Republicans six elections in a row.  So he did something about it, getting heavily involved in voter registration drives.  As a result what everyone thought would be a swing state in 1992 instead turned out into an easy win for Clinton, and a solidly blue state ever since.

Well, NC by all rights should be a swing state.  Democrats dominate the state legislature and the council of state.  The House delegation has been pretty evenly split, ranging from 7-5 Republican to the current 7-6 Democratic advantage.  And even though the Republicans have won 6 of the last 8 Senate elections here (mainly because of their solid hold on the Helms/Dole seat - the other seat switches every 6 years), during that time the HIGHEST vote they've gotten is only 53.6% - hardly the mark of a blood red state.  Yet the Republicans have carried this state in the last 7 Presidential elections, the last two by better than 12 points each.

So, Obama is attacking this state the same way he did Illinois.  The result will be the swing state we're supposed to be.  I've been predicting a 50% chance for an Obama win here ever since the primary, and honestly I think he's the favorite now.  I get tired of people constantly comparing us to other states like VA.  NC is a unique state ready to go blue.  Don't be surprised - it's no wild dream at all.


by LanceS on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:31:51 PM EST

Re: Obama draws 28,000 to Asheville, NC - My Exper (none / 0)

Awesome comment. I think you're right that there is a difference between how particular demographics of people "should" vote and how they actually vote, at least in terms of election results (who shows up matters). It never ceases to amaze me how many people reject their economic interest and vote for abortion and gay marriage instead. This was the point in Obama's now famous San Francisco call about "clinging to guns and religion" - but as often is the case, the benign main point was spun by Republicans to something he clearly didn't mean or believe. This happens a lot in North Carolina, but I think North Carolina is inherently more conservative than Illinois. North Caolina has lots of registered Democrats, but many of them are conservative Democrats. Look at states like Oklahoma, Arkansas, and West Virginia that have huge Democratic registration advantages, but they vote Republican for President a great deal. As opposed to these states, North Carolina actually has some big cities and a decent-sized black population, which has played a big role in those switching Senate seats you mentioned. NC also has tons of college students because it is truly home to one of the best state college systems in the country. Virginia, I would agree, is different because their "bluening" is almost exclusively a result of people moving in from the DC suburbs. Therefore, Virginia is really polrized between North and South, and I think North Carolina isn't as much. We've got a nice coalition of progressives and Conservative-to-Moderate Democrats that give us a fighting chance every time statewide. I don't know much about this, but that's my hunch. In some respects, Virginia may be more like Illinois than NC, since Illinois' "bluening" has been Chicago overpowering the rest of the state, isn't it?


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 10:58:12 PM EST
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WV might flip blue too! (none / 0)

Carnaki has us 4 points down...


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 09:31:36 AM EST
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Re: Obama draws 28,000 to Asheville, NC - My Exper (none / 0)

Just to clarify - I didn't mean that NC would be like IL, just that Obama's work would get NC to "behave" the way it is supposed to (swing state), as his earlier work helped accomplish in IL (blue state).


by LanceS on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 03:12:22 PM EST
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The future belongs to us (none / 0)

That North Carolina has been a "red" state owes to the fact that the national Democrats ignored us for years. Thankfully, Howard Dean is in the process of correcting that mistake here and in many other states.

Today's rally in Asheville was extremely well-attended, but that isn't the most important thing. What really mattered was the number of young people who came, many who won't be old enough to vote for several years. Yhough they can't directly affect the outcome, they came and waved banners, talked to activists, listened intently to Barack, and came away more likely than ever to be the Democratic Party of the future.

This is how you build a political movement from the ground up. And I believe we may be witnessing the beginning of the greatest Democratic alignment since the New Deal.


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by Spiffarino on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:04:16 PM EST
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Re: The future belongs to us (none / 0)

I hope you're right. I don't like to get my "hopes" up, but it seems like what you're saying is exactly their master plan. A counter to the Southern Strategy that put us in the wilderness for so long. If you think about it, the Republican dominance has been all about the Conservative South, in terms of the nuts in one region imposing their will on the rest of the country. Challenging the South seems pretty damn logical if you want a reallignment. We've pretty much won everything in the Northeast - we need to start flipping the South to maintain it. Remember the 5 Senate seats we lost in the South in 2004 due to retirements: Hollings (SC), Graham (FL), Edwards (NC), Breaux (LA), and Miller* (GA)? We've got good chances in Senate races this year in Virgina, North Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Georgia. If we can somehow pull off all 5, that would be so damn SWEET!


by fsugrad2005 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:14:31 PM EST
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Re: The future belongs to us (2.00 / 1)

Well we are finding a way for a lot of the high school kids to get involved by volunteering to make calls for the campaign or go canvassing with their parents.


by democratunc on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 10:08:51 AM EST
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david cobb (none / 0)

Who is David Cobb?
12 write in votes!
not bad for him
by gil44 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 at 11:41:31 PM EST

Also this weekend, (2.00 / 1)

A McCain-Palin rally drew 1/4 the turnout of an Obama-Biden rally...

In Alaska!!

:~)


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 07:46:58 AM EST


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